EKG prices these days?

[jason.koehler]

Just wondering what any of you have paid for East Kent Goldings (UK, not US) recently...

We just bought 5 kilos of EKG and paid 13,000 yen, which is the most we've paid so far during this shortage (About $120 us, so close to $10 a pound)

Is this a raw deal or a steal? Just curious :)

[Mach2]

Hi Black Ninja,
Are you pulling our legs or trying to be funny? I paid $20/lb for Columbus and I am a happy camper. Maybe I should be buying my hops in Japan :confused:
Cheers

[shiva]

Well i just paid $35 pound for cascades and prob will pay that again if i can find them.

Cheers,

Doug

www.ashevillebrewing.com

[jason.koehler]

C hops I can understand going for that, but low alpha EKG from 2006? I was a little surprised as it was a three time increase, and double our last order a few months ago...but I suppose from your reaction you must be worse off...

[Mach2]

How much you pay these days for Chech SAAZ or Polish Lublin in Japan. These are also low alpha. Maybe you can ship some my way.
Cheers, ;)

[jason.koehler]

We're getting NZ Saaz these days, little bit of a spicy-bitter note on the finish compared to CZ, but they work ok in our lager...I'd have to check prices though, we haven't ordered them for 3 months now...

[Greenbrewmonkey]

Hello Jason,

I'll be paying around $20 USD / lb for UK fuggles next year.

Who do you buy the NZ hops from? I would be interested in the Saaz, and I am trying source some organic hops. I am having a little trouble finding them stateside.

Thanks,
cheers,
Ron
Jolly Pumpkin Artisan Ales

[Beersmith]

Jason, I think UK Kents at that price are a deal considering the situation. We just paid $22 per pound for 2007 crop.

[Capt. Bob]

On a somewhat related note.....just got a shipment of raw hops from Hop Union. (Yes, they are supplying to the little guys) and recieved US Saaz with an AA of 7%! (Czech were long gone)
Has anyone seen this before?
I'm going to have to seriously retool my recipes.

Bob
Saint Somewhere Brewing

[Mach2]

I had US SAAZ before and they were not near with the aroma to the real thing. AA was much closer, they were 4.6-5 %. If the AA are so much different I just wander how much different is the aroma now, maybe they do not even remotely reassemble SAAZ. From my experience if there is a crop that is gaining drastically in % AA, it loose drastically in aroma. I noticed it especially in Noble Aroma Varieties. Let us know how they worked for you in you beer. What style are you going to brew with it?

Cheers, Mark

[jason.koehler]

PM Sent to you Ron!

[mic_mac]

re hop stocks, prices etc, we (very small scale contracting brewing co., soon to be small-ish micro) tried to get hold of some UK EKGs & were told that there aren't any! US hop prices have gone nuts over here too (incl a few no-stocks I think incl cascades).

Re differences in hop character with the same variety grown in different countries/locations - I tried some UK cascades that were fine (nice enough flavour) but not super-hoppy like good US cascades are. Anyone had much experience of the Argentinian Cascades? I tried some absolutely great Belgian-grown Fuggles, 1st Gold & Goldings (some organic) a few years back.

There's also that weird situation of NZ hops being genetically different (triploid rather than diploid? - & therefore I would guess different flavour & certainly much higher AAs) than their more traditional equivalent - Saaz, Hallertauer, etc

A quick google seems to suggest that NZ hop researchers/growers/merchants are moving towards new indigenous names for some of these hybrid triploid hops - Riwaka & Motueka instead of D. & B. Saaz & "Pacific Hallertau"
cheers
MikeMcG
www.betwixt.co.uk